Leroux's novel vs 2004 movie

I don't know if you remember Night Court. The ninth season was in 1991, but they also did an episode using Phantom as the theme, but I cannot find it on Youtube. It was a knee-slapper as well. Dan was "A Guy Called Phantom". Dan was hiding in the basement of the courthouse and took to wearing a mask. He kidnapped Christine and then there was the chandelier. It was an ity-bity chandelier that he had to stand up on an step stool in front of everybody and cut the cord holding the chandelier.

I wish I could find a clip of that one. You'd be rolling on the floor with laughter as well.

I do remember night court. I used to love that show. But I don't remember that episode. You have one hell of a memory to remember these things. I don't remember what I did yesterday

I saw it in rerun, that's how I recalled Night Court and Married with Children.

I was gonna say....holy memory! I don't get night court reruns, but I see married with children, but I don't watch it often. It's so funny, that trio combo is just about everywhere you look. It's definately a popular theme. There was something I wanted to compare it to, but I've forgotten

It will come to you. I believe that after the popularity of Phantom, more and more films and stories appeared with similar themes.

Take a look at this one. This is from Goosebumps by RL Stine
called The Phantom of the Auditorium.

I'm a little old for Goosebumps, but iI did read a lot of RL Stine. You can find Phantom references almost anywhere nowadays. Even Twilight, with Edward and Jacob both vying for Bella's affection (though they are both "monsters" in this case). It amazes me how you find this stuff. I have to get back to studying my book. I'm at the part where Raoul and the Persian are going down into the lair. But it's so hard with everything I have going on to sit down and analyze a novel. But soon, for sure

The demographics don't matter to me. If it's a film for children or young adults I will still watch it. Besides, if I hadn't watched this one, I would have missed another TV show with a Phantom theme.

Glad to see you back Gabby81. Take your time in getting into big discussions. This is why I've added some video clips to compare. They don't take much time or much analyzing.

I'm pretty well the same way....I'll read anything. But by the time the Goosebumps series started out, I was into more adult novels. I know kids every where loved them. And you're right, it gave a chance to see another great Phantom theme.

I'm so lucky to have found this site. You are all so understanding and have great ideas and opinions.

Has anyone noticed the cliches in the movie? This is not to mention the plot holes. The original novel has no such weaknesses.

Remember this from the 2004 film? :

Raoul: Genius has turned to madness...

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Christine: ...it scares me. Don't put me through this ordeal by fire.

Anyone know what an 'ordeal by fire is'?

It's a figure of speech. This will probably give you a better definition than I can: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ordeal_by_fire#Ordeal_of_fire

Thanks Snowmoccian! Good to see you. I was actually looking for a discussion. The lines from the movie are a bit lame in some spots and I wanted to see if I could trigger a thought or two. Perhaps from your link we get some other thoughts.

I've found another cheesy version of Phantom. This Erik wears a mask and a varsity jacket. It's called Phantom of the Mall:Erik's Revenge. What a hoot!

Ok, lets revisit the lines in the movie. I actually didn't find them that lame. "Genius has turned to madness", may be a little cheesy, but it's true, and I think it's fitting. "Ordeal by fire" is an interesting choice of words. She could have just said "Don't put me through this", but that wouldn't be as fancy

This newest version of Phantom is pretty bad. It amazes me how many different versions there are floating around out there. I mean, the Phantom wearing a varsity jacket and living in a mall? Come on!

The lines may not sound lame to you, but I write and read a lot and these lines are pretty lame to me.

"Ordeal by fire", doesn't give me a clear picture of what she faces if the Phantom wins. "Ordeal by fire" is just as bad as "caos reigned" for hours. See what I mean?

"Genius has turned to madness" is in the same category. In order for the reader or this case, the audience to get a visual, a better choice of words should have been chosen.


Yep, the Phantom of the Mall...poor unhappy Erik is now a fashion victim.